balrog
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Post by balrog on May 11, 2014 10:26:59 GMT
more evidence of Lustria acknowledging my claims to con.47 (on the first page of the Artzoktian Annex Distribution Program)  it is to be noted also that I accepted the map suggested by Lustria here, however ...the Mongols wouldn't accept because:  |
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Post by genghiskhan on May 11, 2014 11:55:58 GMT
You seem to have overlooked that I already owned over half of 47 before Artzokas fall, and therefore should not go to ...the Mongols Even lustria agrees with me there: -snip- although some of the points in his post are wrong such as me causing the Choam war, and attacking ...the Mongols to gain territory, the point is that your not even debating that I owned land on con.47, and therefore ...the Mongols could not just claim it. This is massively due to Lustria's initial ignorance and not researching the situation properly, as he clearly did not know that I owned land of C.47 so he couldn't just give away the entire continent (or at least without my consent). Also maybe you don't understand my situation. I am a rather small nation, the only colonies I own were on C.47, C.51 and recently C.69. The land I own on my home continent is rather small, and therefore by taking away my biggest colony on C.47 it would obviously cause severe harm to my nation. How could it possibly not? Maybe you shouldn't have ceded all your land away then hmm? also, you invaded land promised to me, knowing it was for me. |
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Post by genghiskhan on May 11, 2014 11:57:43 GMT
more evidence of Lustria acknowledging my claims to con.47 (on the first page of the Artzoktian Annex Distribution Program) it is to be noted also that I accepted the map suggested by Lustria here, however ...the Mongols wouldn't accept because: psst...hey duude, they're different agreements. Besides, i didn't cede land until i was ordered to because i was negotiating a settlement. |
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Post by genghiskhan on May 11, 2014 12:00:28 GMT
I'm putting this here for ease of access
2014 0:14:39 GMT 1 toawesomeforepic said:
To be fair this was a pretty hefty read, but from what I skimmed through it looks like this is how the conversation went. Lustria was giving out peaces of land owned by Arztoka, and it was largely based on a first come first serve bases which is reasonable in a sense. This is until ...The Mongols comes along, and claims continent 47, and then informs the people that Mines of Moria is taking land illegally from Continent 47. This causes a huge debate between Mines of Moria, and ...The Mongols, about how they are going to peacefully split the continent, and who gets what, both giving reasons as to why they deserve this peace of land, until Lustria intervenes, and comes up with his own peace treaty, asking if it is reasonable for both parties. This is were I skipped realizing that I was about 1/10 done with the post, so please understand if I missed some important details, but all that I noticed was Mines of Moria, and ...The Mongols arguing over who gets what land, then Mines of Moria agreeing to it, and eventually pays for the peace deal, but is suddenly attacked for delaying it? Is this how the WPO operates? You guys are called the World Peace organization, so an event peacefully comes to an end, and then you declare limited war on one of the parties, because it took longer to complete the peace deal? I just don't know what to say about this really. Correct me if I'm wrong, and please point out where in the conversation you said that if he didn't immediately pay his debts he would be punished...
GenghisKhan:
Yeah you missed some shit but its pretty long and i'm impressed you read even some of it. Moria proved his incompetence when he released Lustria's name to the public (and he forgot to change it before posting it here too!). Moria failed to cede any land and while this has been kept under wraps, i may as well release it now. Moria ceded me no land whatsoever. I put units on the land he was supposed to cede then arranged with Lustria to leave and be re added to the alliance, occupying the land while i was out of the alliance, then ceding him his agreed land. After that point, Moria kept units in my land after specifically being asked by Unicorn nation to move them immediately, he failed to move them despite him obviously being online and posting on the forums. In addition, one of his units attacked one of mine and instead of declaring total war, i allowed him the opportunity to pay reparations. He delayed this significantly offering me a meagre 1 or 2 rifles, claiming he had no other resources, though it was clear he was shipping them all to Raphalonian, then he faked a screenshot of Lustria's resources before finally offering the trade AFTER the deadline set by Unicorn Nation.
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balrog
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Post by balrog on May 11, 2014 12:30:41 GMT
What! This is a blatant lie!
Of coarse I ceded you the land. You can't just start making stuff up to make yourself look more credible
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Post by genghiskhan on May 11, 2014 12:34:09 GMT
Don't bullshit me, we both know you ceded nothing.
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balrog
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Post by balrog on May 11, 2014 12:50:54 GMT
No ...the Mongols. I definitely recall ceding you land
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Post by unicornnation on May 11, 2014 16:11:32 GMT
You seem to have overlooked that I already owned over half of 47 before Artzokas fall, and therefore should not go to ...the Mongols Even lustria agrees with me there:  although some of the points in his post are wrong such as me causing the Choam war, and attacking ...the Mongols to gain territory, the point is that your not even debating that I owned land on con.47, and therefore ...the Mongols could not just claim it. This is massively due to Lustria's initial ignorance and not researching the situation properly, as he clearly did not know that I owned land of C.47 so he couldn't just give away the entire continent (or at least without my consent). Also maybe you don't understand my situation. I am a rather small nation, the only colonies I own were on C.47, C.51 and recently C.69. The land I own on my home continent is rather small, and therefore by taking away my biggest colony on C.47 it would obviously cause severe harm to my nation. How could it possibly not? We discussed this. You lost this land when Arztozka gained control of it. When he quit, it did not revert to you, it became alliance territory, for the officers to do with what we wished. We decided that it should go to Mongols. However, you contested this Without Discussing It First and proceeded to move onto territory which was owned formally by the Mongols. When we told you to leave, you did not comply. When we tried to discuss terms for peace, so that this did not devolve into open war, you stalled enormously, and failed to meet the terms of those agreements after you claimed that you would. We would've been happy to let you keep the territory if you had agreed to the terms quickly. However, you delayed the peace process for so long, that we decided you must be punished. The alliance must be run efficiently for it to succeed. You were hampering that. We took measures to ensure that people will hesitate before following your actions in the future. |
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Post by unicornnation on May 11, 2014 16:13:55 GMT
Also, this has gone on WAAAYYY too long. Can we please close this thread until the trial to prevent a flame war that it will inevitably devolve into if it continues?
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Post by genghiskhan on May 11, 2014 16:20:04 GMT
woah why do i keep getting moderated? freedom of speech man!
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Post by CaptainMeme on May 11, 2014 16:21:18 GMT
Sorry - I'm not going to close any threads on this forum that the admins wouldn't have done on the old official forum. Threads will not be closed for ingame reasons.
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Post by toawesomeforepic on May 11, 2014 16:38:01 GMT
woah why do i keep getting moderated? freedom of speech man! Freedom of speach doesn't mean that people have to listen to what you say. It just means that you can't be incriminated for your opinions, but back to the topic of the forum I think we should hold off until we have had a proper trial. Can we confirm who shall be the judge, and jury? |
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balrog
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Post by balrog on May 11, 2014 16:39:10 GMT
Erm... i'm not sure thats going to happen for a while...
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Post by unicornnation on May 11, 2014 17:14:43 GMT
And when the hell is the trial going to happen anyway?
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Post by natotropolis on May 11, 2014 18:26:09 GMT
Can everyone cease attacking one another until the jury is set up? This could be a lenghtly process and it would be best if fighting ceased until it is complete.
Also, what is being done to set up the jury? Have all those proposed been contacted?
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